Film Theory: Why You SHOULDN'T FLY to Mordor! (The Lord of the Rings)

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    When it comes to The Lord of the Rings, one of the most common questions circulated online is why didn’t Frodo just ride the giant Eagles to Mount Doom? There are theories out there that suggest this was the plan all along, but sadly, when you look at the evidence, that's just wrong. In fact, it's so wrong, it's dangerous! In this episode, I will give you the definitive answer to why Frodo didn’t simply ride those giant birds into Mordor!
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  • Allen Reyes
    Allen Reyes Dzień temu

    Even though the Eagles couldn't wear the ring, it would certainly corrupt them and cause them to turn on the Fellowship. Yeah, you're totally right.

  • L337M4573RK
    L337M4573RK Dzień temu

    MatPat, you missed the mark on this one! The Eagles' size, ability to fly, sheer power, etc., are easy enough to explain, but you are forgetting one very IMPORTANT detail...Mt. Doom is an active VOLCANO! Getting anywhere close to the enormous ash cloud would be a death sentence as volcanic ash, sulfur, sulfuric acid, super heated particulates, and (of course) extreme heat would kill any lower being the moment they took a breath! Volcanic ash clouds have been known to shoot up thousands of feet into the air, and we can see from the movies that Mordor is almost completely covered in this volcanic ash cloud 24/7. The highest we've seen the Eagles fly in the movies is only about 1-2K feet in the air (note how they barely make it over the mountains in the Hobbit movies). Even at the end of Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, when Gandalf and the Eagles rescue Frodo and Sam, we see an enormous hole in the volcanic ash cloud through which Gandalf and the Eagles fly in. If that hole wasn't there, they probably wouldn't have been able to save Frodo and Sam without exposing them to the deadly volcanic ash cloud!

  • Diddy_Mole
    Diddy_Mole 2 dni temu

    I actually researched this too not long ago and I dug up that the reason why is because the eagles didn't want to join this entire war. they save Gandalf because they owe him a life debt (couldn't find why). the eagles are actually neutral creatures, they don't fight for any side just for themselves which is why they join the fight at the end of the third movie, the nazgul were turning around and heading to mt doom where they would've stopped frodo so the eagles stopped them which would bring peace in the world and the eagles could finally rest.
    that's just what I read, not saying it's true but I like it and if it's close to being true, cool

  • de blå køer
    de blå køer 5 dni temu

    4:01 why norway. your talking about the alps

  • Max Elovenko
    Max Elovenko 6 dni temu

    Yes, please, the Theory Buster.
    Stand up, our child, you're born

  • Zaid Chalabi
    Zaid Chalabi 6 dni temu

    What about atleast use eagles in helms deep. Gondor? Would have saved thousands of people

  • Raven Ashley
    Raven Ashley 10 dni temu

    The eagles could fly over to mount doom if they could fly blind with armor but sadly the reason they didn't use this is because melkors magic protect all mordors creatures/ saurons things from the sight of any of eru illuvatar valars creations aka the eagles and gandolph that's why when frodo passed the mountain gandalph lost sight of them

  • Colton Tetzlaff
    Colton Tetzlaff 10 dni temu

    So this just popped up in my feed and nobody seems to understand what Gandalf is actually saying. Multiple times in the book, Gandalf tells the fellowship to "fly" as in "move quickly" because they are in danger.
    The scene where the balrog whips Gandalf is the "death" of the balrog and Gandalf knows this, he also knows that without the balrog, the orcs have nothing to fear and may go after the fellowship right away. Gandalf is telling the group to make haste and exit the mines of Moria before they get captured by the orcs, since they're all just standing there watching him fight the thing.
    It's very simple, and easy to understand in context and I don't think many people realize this

  • Ákos Dánffy
    Ákos Dánffy 12 dni temu

    Yavanna aule and manwe ar not gods you moron, they are angels

  • Izuku Midoriya
    Izuku Midoriya 12 dni temu

    Who knew my first name "Rohan" was from lord of the rings which is one of my favorite movies

  • Brody_Universe
    Brody_Universe 12 dni temu +3

    I think I found a plot hole in this. He says they can’t risk the Eagles picking up Frodo because of the One Ring and how it may corrupt them. But in The Hobbit, Bilbo was in possession of the ring when the Eagles carried them out of the forest. So if they didn’t get corrupted then, why would you not trust them now. They could have flown Frodo a very far distance and then let him walk significantly shorter. Just an idea, I’m probably wrong😅

    • Judgemental Bromophobe
      Judgemental Bromophobe 6 dni temu

      Back in the Hobbit Tolkien didn't know what the ring did other than make you invisible.

  • Joshua Boyd
    Joshua Boyd 12 dni temu

    Eagles dont have fingers so it wouldn't matter

  • Kneon Knight
    Kneon Knight 14 dni temu

    In the late 70s, my friends and I got to discussing how the major characters in The Hobbit would measure up in AD&D terms. By the end of the book, Bilbo would have gained enough XP to become a 2nd level Thief, while Gandalf was a 4th level Wizard at best.

    In any event, Sauron's ring was just a McGuffin, the trilogy was really about Aragorn coming out of his self exile and assuming the responsibilities of kingship.

  • Dow Jones
    Dow Jones 15 dni temu +1

    Heres another one if Bruce Lee wore the ring tho he's peak human will the ring amply his physical strength to superhuman or just turn him invisible like the hobbit!?

  • Dow Jones
    Dow Jones 15 dni temu +1

    so if a human wears the ring it will turn them invisible like the hobbit right!? What if that person was "evil" in nature will it have the same effect!?!?

    • Kneon Knight
      Kneon Knight 14 dni temu

      Look what it did to Isildur, and the Nazgul themselves were the original keepers of The Nine. All of the nineteen rings given to the elves, men and dwarves had been corrupted by Sauron, and in turn corrupted those who wore them. Gollum, being of the same original stock as Hobbits, was able to resist the corruption to a great degree, and even though it twisted him, he managed to keep it from the Dark Lord for many years. It is mentioned in The Hobbit that their race is not given to any sort of magic other than the ordinary, everyday sort that allows them to hide when they don't wish to be bothered. Because of that, the ring could not swiftly turn them to their darker natures as easily unless they had a predisposition to baser flaws such as the greed that drove Smeagol to kill his friend to seize the ring for himself.

  • Doge
    Doge 15 dni temu

    12min video and a min of it is the intro...fuck off

  • Alex Falke
    Alex Falke 17 dni temu

    Norwegian hat on in the Alps?!?!?!

  • qp ghost qp
    qp ghost qp 18 dni temu

    Man I swear you gotta be the voice to the game "you dont know jack" the voice is spot on and your style is literally the same as the game i swear lol

  • msmes
    msmes 19 dni temu

    um, what about the most all powerful Eru?

  • Inigo Guevara
    Inigo Guevara 20 dni temu

    Start at the video Matt said the hobbit movies suck well I live in NZ where the hobbit movies were made! Thank you for making fun of NZ

    • OneBehindTheHair
      OneBehindTheHair Dzień temu

      I can't tell if you're being serious, but your logic is pretty wrong if you are.

  • Lilith Sasha-McGarry
    Lilith Sasha-McGarry 20 dni temu

    Also the eagles can just get shot down
    Lol if you thought you could fly to Mordor ur dumb

  • Felix Rae
    Felix Rae 20 dni temu

    didn’t he say ‘run you fools’

  • Deepankar Anand
    Deepankar Anand 21 dzień temu

    booooooring!!!!

  • Bill Cornman
    Bill Cornman 22 dni temu

    One hole in that theory... although the relevance of the Eagles being more powerful is still there, Sauron is looking to the ground for the ring the Eagles could just simply rise above.

    • Bill Cornman
      Bill Cornman 20 dni temu

      Touche salesman

    • akeel brown
      akeel brown 21 dzień temu

      He had fellbeasts patrolling the skies constantly...

  • My Eba Movies
    My Eba Movies 23 dni temu

    in the hungarian translation its not even fly you fools, its run you fools

  • Hunter80843
    Hunter80843 23 dni temu

    So Canadian that when someone asked me a question in text...and I had to check my schedule on my phone to make sure of a date I said sorry for interrupting

  • kevin neal
    kevin neal 24 dni temu

    Didn't uncle grandpapaa (lmao) have the ring on him when he flew with the eagles in the hobbit, so it doesn't make sense when u said about frodo and the eagles plus the ring holds the bearer not the ppl or creature around him, ppl got figity around the ring when it was shown not when it was hidden so the eagles wouldn't have been affected by the ring, shit couldnt they fly above the clouds and dive bomb down to the volcano and have frodo drop it in from the top, the film would have only been an hour pmsl🤣🤣🤣

  • Ben Siener
    Ben Siener 25 dni temu

    Pretty sure that Gandalf could have cloaked one of the eagles with some sort of invisibility spell. Then he and Bobo teabaggins could have flown there without and problems.

    • Ben Siener
      Ben Siener 13 dni temu

      @OneBehindTheHair hiding my body from others in the realm of the seen... that sounds exactly like invisibility but with more syllables.

    • OneBehindTheHair
      OneBehindTheHair 14 dni temu

      @Ben Siener That's a special instance, and even then it's not true invisibility. The Ring simply hides your body in the realm of the Seen. In the Unseen, you are still quite visible. The Ringwraiths, for example. They are completely invisible in the Seen, but remember when Frodo puts on the Ring at Weathertop?

    • Ben Siener
      Ben Siener 14 dni temu

      @OneBehindTheHair you sure about that? Because if I recall correctly, the ring made the wearer invisible...

    • OneBehindTheHair
      OneBehindTheHair 14 dni temu

      There's no sort of invisibility spell in LotR.

  • Ironwolf 1
    Ironwolf 1 26 dni temu +3

    Um, "Fly, you fools!" is the old timey way of saying "Run, f-ing run!"

    • Isaac Bruner
      Isaac Bruner 21 dzień temu +1

      Exactly, fly in this context is a variant of flee. Occasionally, an escape is still called a flight.

  • MrSdsok
    MrSdsok 26 dni temu

    The mgsv sound in 11:03 wow

  • griizzlerhops
    griizzlerhops 27 dni temu

    The Eagles could fly there easily bc Saurons creations were destroyed,Meaning no threats. Easy answer.

  • Jonleonard Cassidy
    Jonleonard Cassidy 27 dni temu

    What about Er?

  • Ricardo Mundie
    Ricardo Mundie 28 dni temu

    The Cringe Is Strong With This One

  • Fish Head
    Fish Head 29 dni temu

    Play War In The North & Gandalf will explain

  • Truthspoon
    Truthspoon 29 dni temu

    How about fuck off you squeaky beta cuck. Autoplay off.

  • BecomingMike
    BecomingMike Miesiąc temu

    It certainly requires talent to make a 12:07 video from the simple fact that it would not be a good story.

    Also... is it book theory or film theory? Weren't the eagles carrying Bilbo with the Ring without any problem in the first Hobbit film????

    Jesus fuck, this was just bullshit.

  • Judy Kankam
    Judy Kankam Miesiąc temu

    Bring back the love tip it is hilarious

  • HennibsDP
    HennibsDP Miesiąc temu

    am i the only one that actually loved the hobbit trilogy!? 😂

  • Aidan Trendell
    Aidan Trendell Miesiąc temu

    Love how he pronounces Sauron

  • Tucher97
    Tucher97 Miesiąc temu

    erm fly to mordor, YEA LETS HOP ONTO A JET AND FLY OVER AN AREA WITH STRONG POSSIBLE CONFIRMS OF SAM SITES, plus the eagles are apparently well known by multiple race except for hte hobbits, however the hobits themselves are unknown to other race or atleast overlooked

  • syed ziauddin
    syed ziauddin Miesiąc temu

    But but but there is myth busters😟. What about myth busters.

  • Mari Mari
    Mari Mari Miesiąc temu

    Should I watch the movies? I want to but some people told me it was not worth spending all that time to watch them... Please tell me your oppinions

    • Mari Mari
      Mari Mari 13 dni temu

      @OneBehindTheHair Thank you

    • OneBehindTheHair
      OneBehindTheHair 14 dni temu +1

      They are very much worth it, considering they're three of the greatest movies of all time.
      Skip the Hobbit, though.

  • Marian Alexandru
    Marian Alexandru Miesiąc temu

    Its not fly.. it run you fools
    Nvm..i watched the scene hah

    • Isaac Bruner
      Isaac Bruner 21 dzień temu

      It literally just means flee, he's not asking them to lift up off the ground.

  • Ethan Kaiser
    Ethan Kaiser Miesiąc temu +1

    Why do americans use american Football fields as As a measurement

  • Skip Krause
    Skip Krause Miesiąc temu

    Here is some more interesting information. I know this is an old video, but IDC
    plclip.com/video/C5im3ikI8p8/wideo.html

  • Lofwyn
    Lofwyn Miesiąc temu

    They flown miles around Mordor, and then the goes to the mountain to save Sam and Frodo.

  • sebas ubachs
    sebas ubachs Miesiąc temu

    wont they get into trouble with the flying nazgul,gaurding mordor!?

  • Arian Minaie
    Arian Minaie Miesiąc temu

    Dumbass fucking video, you making this video after countless people for years have stated this

  • Head Hunter
    Head Hunter Miesiąc temu

    i thought he said run you fools

  • Ginger Kid17
    Ginger Kid17 Miesiąc temu

    Gandalf and the eagle king HATCHED a plan. That was probably planned!!!😂🤣😂🤣👍

  • Slytherin Guy
    Slytherin Guy Miesiąc temu

    Wouldn’t Radigast also be a demigod?

    • CoyoteTail Art
      CoyoteTail Art Miesiąc temu

      He is, he's a Maiyar just like Gandalf and Sarumon. (I know those are probably spelled wrong)

  • RozArt
    RozArt Miesiąc temu

    Why did that intro joke bring this flirt to my mind; "Did you fall out of the vending machine? 'Cause you're snack." It's not even Lotr related!

  • Oleh Gults
    Oleh Gults Miesiąc temu

    I want eagles, and I want them big! Big eagles! BIGLES!

  • Jboy Gamer and Vlogs
    Jboy Gamer and Vlogs Miesiąc temu

    Frodo: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    In this video

    Frodo: YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  • Noah Strand Salmi
    Noah Strand Salmi Miesiąc temu

    norway!

  • Noah Strand Salmi
    Noah Strand Salmi Miesiąc temu

    noway!

  • TJ Acree
    TJ Acree Miesiąc temu

    Its a bat.

  • Nunos World
    Nunos World Miesiąc temu

    How dare you say porn site i was watching with my family im disappointed matpat

  • JustCallMeArrk
    JustCallMeArrk Miesiąc temu +39

    Unpopular. Opinion. I don't. Think. The. Hobbit. Trilogy. Is. That. Bad.

    • Marianna Calamar
      Marianna Calamar 3 dni temu

      Unpopular. Opinion. I. Agree.

    • Its boyaknow
      Its boyaknow 7 dni temu

      Yeah also I think all 3 have almost an 8 rating so I don’t imagine they could be too bad ha

    • Sayori
      Sayori 12 dni temu +1

      CATwoman 1 It makes sense why Thorin would have his beard cut short. It was cut short to honor his father and grandfather, and those that died in the battle. (His father and grandfather’s beards were singed in battle so he wanted to honor them.) He would’ve grown it out again if he ended up living and becoming king. Fili and Kili’s beards being short were a little weird, i admit, but it’s one of the things I can look past.

    • Tiffané Shorter
      Tiffané Shorter 20 dni temu

      CATwoman 1 And I see what you’re saying about Thorin’s age, I just wish Balin and Thorin were more peers, I guess than Balin’s mentor-y relationship.
      And I ABSOLUTELY AGREE about the beards! That’s what irritates my twin the most about Kili was that it felt like he was chosen for the love triangle by the producers because he was the closest to “elvish” looks with his beard especially. Where’s the facial hair? The ornamental braids and beads? The devilishly dwarvish looks? Too many races looking like elves if the movies wanted sex appeal. Beards are sexy, too, Jackson! Lol

    • CATwoman 1
      CATwoman 1 22 dni temu +2

      @Tiffané Shorter I see what you're saying about the movies portrayal of his corruption, but in reality, Balin and Thorin should be roughly the same age, or not too far apart. It had been over two hundred years since they fled as young dwarves from Smaug's attack on Erebor and a dwarf usually lived around 300 years or so. Thorin was AT LEAST well into his middle years and probably getting to be an elderly dwarf that wanted to regain his people's kingdom before he died.
      I also HATED having him, Fili, and Kili portrayed with short beards. These particular dwarves were known as the LONGBEARDS. To have a beard that short at that age would have been a disgrace to any self-respecting dwarf. I didn't mind it on Ori, since he was the youngest dwarf on the expedition and it was entirely probable that his beard was still growing out, but the only reason they portrayed Thorin, Fili, and Kili in this way was for sex appeal.

  • Gretchen Weaver
    Gretchen Weaver Miesiąc temu

    The hobbit movies where good