Game Theory: Exposing Destiny's LOST PLOT!

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  • AstroTwister 101
    AstroTwister 101 Dzień temu


  • Th3_Lon3 W0lf
    Th3_Lon3 W0lf Dzień temu

    Look...all we need is for cayde to get somehow rebooted or revived in destiny 3 or ATLEAST some kind of mortal kombat time reboot magic to bring him back and our guardian made that decision and mat pat Turns out to be the new cayde-6

  • Patrick Benham
    Patrick Benham 2 dni temu

    Savd us cayde

    DE BOIS 2 dni temu

    Please do one on Destiny 2.

  • Laggy Acer
    Laggy Acer 2 dni temu

    Less than a minute I hear someone screaming because of loot boxes

  • Aetheros Drakon
    Aetheros Drakon 2 dni temu

    Lore update, the black garden is NOT the birthplace of the vex.

  • Conor White
    Conor White 2 dni temu

    When you reference guardians being nothing but killing machines that actually references exos and the deep stone crypt

  • Dario Toska
    Dario Toska 3 dni temu

    Love Cayde-06

  • Lana Newhouser
    Lana Newhouser 3 dni temu

    i still play the original destiny so i can forget about cayde's death

  • Rowan Rivera
    Rowan Rivera 3 dni temu


  • Zeke Baumann
    Zeke Baumann 4 dni temu

    Kill it Kill it kill it with fire

  • Dredman42
    Dredman42 4 dni temu

    10:40 is from an exo when the clovis bray foundation resets exos who know too much

  • Hmair Simons
    Hmair Simons 5 dni temu

    And since I got all three characters let's just say one of them don't give a s*** about me this side the light are the dark cuz he don't trust me the one of them

  • Hmair Simons
    Hmair Simons 5 dni temu

    What would the new updates you get to make your character with you are you get the join the darkness RV apart of the night

  • Nick Kurzy
    Nick Kurzy 6 dni temu

    Please someone makes a GhostPat mod for Destiny 2

  • Nakfyre
    Nakfyre 7 dni temu

    This video could be one of the most amazing pieces of theory on destiny out there. HOWEVER, several times MatPat skims by pieces of lore that are important for context. One as such from the Legends Grimoire Card where Mat quotes "... the people we see in the street and the people we tell about our dreams. We kill them all". Not only is this quote separate from the one that comes before, although Mat uses both as one phrase, but this entire lore bit is talking about the Exo and the Deep Stone Crypt, not about the Guardians and the Traveller's light, but about Humans that tried to go imortal and instead found themselfs having their memories erased bit by bit with each reset.

  • TB TheHatComent
    TB TheHatComent 7 dni temu +1

    Me: oh my good
    A electric bow
    Must be Warlock
    Later: 😑
    Other people: they can teleport
    Me: OoooOoOHhhHHh!!!!! Mistake has not been made

  • The Chicken Of Destiny

    id love that to happen keep up the great work

  • The Chicken Of Destiny

    you could be the new ghost in destiny 3 when it comes out

  • Insecdroid-Games and Other Crap

    It’s June 2019 and I’m still waiting for the war against the darkness to start...maybe in 2020.

  • Branflakes Cereal
    Branflakes Cereal 8 dni temu +4

    This theory is cool, but in Destiny 2, it was disproven because the darkness is shown to be BIG TRIANGLE SHIPS, DUN, DUN, DUN

    • Halo farser
      Halo farser 2 dni temu

      The pyramid ships serve a master like the Reapers before them. The master of the cycle. The Darkness serves ITself.

    • Branflakes Cereal
      Branflakes Cereal 2 dni temu

      Halo farser how do you know they aren’t?

    • Halo farser
      Halo farser 2 dni temu

      @Branflakes Cereal They aren't though. People are spreading misinformation.

    • Branflakes Cereal
      Branflakes Cereal 2 dni temu

      Halo farser Every single person and source I’ve seen have said that they are the darkness

    • Halo farser
      Halo farser 2 dni temu

      ​@Branflakes Cereal No. They aren't the Darkness. Oryx met the Darkness inside of our galaxy. The ships are from outside of the galaxy waiting for the signal to invade like the Reapers before them. They might be the Nothing / Death. Darkness is not Nothing. They might have been created or spawned by the Darkness or otherwise serve it, or they might be a third cosmic faction that competes with Light and Dark.

  • Evan Larson
    Evan Larson 8 dni temu +1

    “I only said I spoke for the Traveler... I never said it spoke to me.” - The Speaker (2014-2017)

  • GreatGrandGoblin
    GreatGrandGoblin 10 dni temu

    10:28 I believe this is from a Exo who were first created as robots with a human conscience. Then Rasputin remodeled them into war machines. Exos often have dreans of something called The Deep Stone Crypt. You are taking a few stories from destiny and saying thats all destiny really is.

  • Matthew Collotta
    Matthew Collotta 11 dni temu

    12:08 they're called dead soldiers because they were dead people. THEY ARE LITERALLY JUST TRYING TO DEFEND THEIR CITY FROM THE FALLEN WHO ARE ATTACKING THEM.

  • Matthew Collotta
    Matthew Collotta 11 dni temu

    10:34 completely irrelevant. That is an exo story of the deep stone crypt. The exos are more violent because that was how they were built.

  • Matthew Collotta
    Matthew Collotta 11 dni temu +1

    6:16 well the traveller gives people the power to revive themselves, have cool abilities and yeah. The darkness killed everything it came into contact with in our solar system.

  • rei esqueleto
    rei esqueleto 11 dni temu

    Fallen know how to speak English ya dum dum

  • Muja Kina
    Muja Kina 12 dni temu

    Destiny story is like Bayonetta but more Mass Effect on it! XD

  • Holden Welch
    Holden Welch 13 dni temu +3

    Do a video on how destiny and halo are connected. Just think about it in the early 2500 there were Spartans and a poster in Mimbosa city of earth and the travertine in the early 2700s humanity is recovering from the collapse after the golden age. Halo is the golden age destiny is the recovery from the collapse

  • Blazer544
    Blazer544 13 dni temu

    10:40 That grimore card talks about the deep stone crypt, and the journey exos go through when they are reborn once again. That's not the actual experience of gaurdians. When exos are reborn they have to cross a field, and most of the time they have to kill things and people to get to the end.

  • Wierdmanok
    Wierdmanok 13 dni temu


  • ChristCarsAndCountry68

    It's SO COOL the way the Grimoire in D1 foreshadowed some stuff in D2. Like the part about killing all the people you think you knew "In between resets"? Back then that could have meant any number of things. Now we realize it refers to the Deep Stone Crypt.

  • Jose Contreras
    Jose Contreras 15 dni temu

    Wait I have a theory I think that the light is death ok so in the ending when speaker said the travler is flow with light ok does that mean the
    traveler is now dead and all the evil was trying to protect the traveler and actually you work for darkness one time the darkness betrayed all of the guardians now since the darkness had life life has light and what I said life is death since you killed the darkness life flows into the traveler now the traveler is dead and the traveler is now darkness when that happens a new traveler is created and so the new traveler goes somewhere now the old traveler is hunting it down the old traveler is darkness the darkness makes you starting a new battle against light and darkness

  • BigOAT21
    BigOAT21 15 dni temu +1


  • Aidan Keith
    Aidan Keith 15 dni temu

    The taken king theory maybe what the taken are

  • Mlg Gamer124
    Mlg Gamer124 22 dni temu

    Mat I know this comment is repeated over and over again but for real I genuinely want you to do a complete theory on destiny (from vanilla destiny 1 to rise of iron and d2 all the way through Forsaken (F for cayde-6))

  • jmcatmpjm
    jmcatmpjm 23 dni temu

    MatPat MUST be a Destiny 3 voice actor. If there ever IS a Destiny 3..

  • Cyanide and Happiness
    Cyanide and Happiness 25 dni temu +13

    Me: *Finishes quest*
    My Ghost: "Congratulations! You-"
    Me: "Yeah, yeah, yeah, just give me that juicy exotic helmet!"

  • Demarcation Media
    Demarcation Media 25 dni temu

    Honestly, I always wondered why the heck the traveler came. Aliens who come with gifts always end up trying to wreck us.

  • Andrue Rendon
    Andrue Rendon Miesiąc temu

    I've taken it upon myself to declare this as fact. You're welcome.

  • CRYOGEN101
    CRYOGEN101 Miesiąc temu

    2:18: t-posing robots, THEIR TAKING OVER

  • Hi There
    Hi There Miesiąc temu

    I didn’t even know I beat the game for 4 or so years until I looked it up last week

  • NeckPUNCHattack
    NeckPUNCHattack Miesiąc temu

    You’re wrong basing info found on the deep stone crypt grimoire card... the stone crypt created exos and that’s why they don’t know what’s what from reset to reset. You got a lot wrong based on your interpretations. Sorry, but can’t get behind this after so long since you gave misinformation. And oh yeah, that NDA was based on a survey done by an outside source... not an employee.

  • Cole Takahashi
    Cole Takahashi Miesiąc temu

    Speaking of Darkness have you covered Eternal Darkness?

  • Gurdurt Durgurt
    Gurdurt Durgurt Miesiąc temu +2

    Ahh, when game theory was still good.

  • Luke TEAGUE
    Luke TEAGUE Miesiąc temu

    Destiny 3 story? Hopefully since it's against the veil

  • Ethan Wild
    Ethan Wild Miesiąc temu

    This makes a lot of sense actually long story short guardians are totally using sword logic

  • BartyBoop
    BartyBoop Miesiąc temu

    Hold up. 10:18 talks about the black stone crypt and a dream that all EXOs, human minds basically transferred to machines, have and only EXOs have this dream.

  • Natural SfmStudio
    Natural SfmStudio Miesiąc temu

    Looks like these plots were lost and not Destiny the game itself 😂😂

  • shadow secrete channel
    shadow secrete channel Miesiąc temu


  • shadow secrete channel
    shadow secrete channel Miesiąc temu

    There not robots there light in a shell

  • shadow secrete channel
    shadow secrete channel Miesiąc temu

    Purples are good in 1 and ezer to fuse then 2

  • camanimatronic kay9
    camanimatronic kay9 Miesiąc temu


  • Deathspacito_ _
    Deathspacito_ _ 2 miesięcy temu +1

    Stop making the absolutely horrible destiny jokes, you dont play destiny stop acting like it

  • tntok 104
    tntok 104 2 miesięcy temu +1


  • Prometheus
    Prometheus 2 miesięcy temu +1


  • Rian Gould
    Rian Gould 2 miesięcy temu +1

    #ghost pat

  • Fortnite player Byle co
    Fortnite player Byle co 2 miesięcy temu +1

    The card from The guardians się was the deep stone crypt card card about how exos become exos.They neaded to kill everyone that they knew

  • Jaspp
    Jaspp 2 miesięcy temu +6

    I think that we will use the darkness for more power in D3

  • Sleepy Snorlax
    Sleepy Snorlax 2 miesięcy temu +2

    With the lore that’s been released since this episode aired, I think we might be able to take this theory one step further. The Light and Dark might actually use the same energies, but for different purposes. Eris, in one of her cards, describes finding an Throne World made for the Light. Not made *of* the Light, but *for* the Light. Why would that exist? The Throne Worlds are created by the Hive’s magic, fueled by Dark energies, so how and/or why would the Light have one?
    To push from the Hive’s magic tangling with the Light, I’d like to propose my own theory. I think that the Guardians and the Hive both follow the Sword Logic, and we just don’t know it. Let’s take a look at how the Sword Logic works. Killing under the Sword Logic establishes your dominance over whatever you killed, and proves its unworthiness to exist in the “final universe”. The Hive also grow more powerful from killing, since killing feeds their worm symbiotes within them. The Guardians use this in almost the exact same way. We kill relentlessly, establishing our place in the universe over them, and we grow in power from killing them. How? Well, it’s no wonder the most powerful loot comes from killing the most powerful enemies. Atheon, Crota, Skolas, Oryx, Aksis, Calus (as a robot but whatever), Argos, Val Ca’Our, Riven, and Insurrection Prime all count as very, very powerful, since they’ve all killed many things for themselves. Strike bosses give strong loot as well, but not as strong, since they haven’t killed as much as their raid boss counterparts. When we kill them and equip that loot, it’s no wonder our “Light” level increases. Our Light is fueled by the same powers as the Dark, just used for a different purpose.
    So what do you all think? Is it a nonsense theory, or could this play into Destiny 3’s plot with Darkness abilities (at least, the one we think is going to exist)?

  • sharky bite
    sharky bite 2 miesięcy temu +1

    U ruined everything i believed in 😭

  • Volroc Destinos
    Volroc Destinos 2 miesięcy temu +1

    Matpat was 3years ahead of his time lmao

  • Bach Bams
    Bach Bams 2 miesięcy temu +2

    It would be super cool if in Destiny 3 or whatever the guardian realizes what the Traveler actually does and ends up getting in a massive boss battle with vanguard (rip cayde), Cabal, Fallen, and Vex all at your side fighting the guardians the Traveler resurrects and throws at you.

  • Net Reils
    Net Reils 2 miesięcy temu

    Cayde 😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭

  • Jimbo the Finger Waggler
    Jimbo the Finger Waggler 2 miesięcy temu +6

    Regardless if I left a comment before I'll leave one now. The Graviton Forfeit helmet for the Hunter backs this whole thing up as well. Check it out

  • Exo 64
    Exo 64 2 miesięcy temu +1

    The vex are known for doing their best to confuse everyone, they also despise everything that isn’t theirs. And when the Pujari had the vision about the thorn it was in the shores of something which is a vex area so it was probably a simulation, and I believe the flower was indeed of the vex because they can’t simulate light so it shouldn’t have been able to simulate a ghost so it made a flower. That Legends card is actually from an Exos dream before they could have been guardians. And the Fallen fight against us because they want the traveler back, also the Whirlwind was because of the Darkness. The Darkness was chasing the Traveler and it ran. Also the Speaker sucked anyway, “ I COULD tell you of the collapse..... BUT I WONT.” I’m sorry but as a destiny lore person I disagree with this one. I don’t want to crap on your theory and I love the channel but I had to point this out. I’m not trying to hurt anyone or offend a person I’m just saying I don’t particularly agree with this one. But keep up the good work! :)

  • Blizzard Forever
    Blizzard Forever 2 miesięcy temu +1

    He sort of has a point even Mara Sov even said that the traveler caused the collapse.

  • kArbitersmark dovah
    kArbitersmark dovah 2 miesięcy temu +2

    Mat.....why havnt you made a Destiny 2 Game theory....either you didnt know about it or it just wasnt interesting becuse we already got MynameisByf but he talks about lore not THEORY!!! and also there is a person who found out that there is gonna be a NEW Race of the darkness as it says...i think.....but i think you should look into what has been going on in destiny 2 and all of that
    just for the sake of more theorys

  • Slippery Sam
    Slippery Sam 2 miesięcy temu +1

    More D2 theories pls

  • Mr.DAIKAJU 0
    Mr.DAIKAJU 0 2 miesięcy temu +2

    Mat pat the traveler was escaping from the traveler it might not have had a choice

  • Cpt. Ulrich
    Cpt. Ulrich 2 miesięcy temu +1

    Revisit the theory.

  • snoozel doesthings
    snoozel doesthings 2 miesięcy temu

    I have now been playing this game since 2014 beta and this is still my favourite game

  • Mr. Merp
    Mr. Merp 2 miesięcy temu

    Great video, but you got a lot of the lore wrong.

  • kevin thetimelord
    kevin thetimelord 2 miesięcy temu

    DESTINY 2!!!

  • Squinky Doo
    Squinky Doo 2 miesięcy temu +1

    Matt pat get to your research and not others theory.

    GLORY 2 miesięcy temu

    This theory is kind of wrong and takes a lot out of context lore. Darkness seeks out light and the traveler is hiding. Rasputin detected the darkness and shot the Traveler to hide its Light from the darkness. The point of the ghosts is to allow humanity to live on and protect it until it regains strength again. It released another blast of light when killing ghaul and is dormant again. And the darkness is coming back. The traveler is still good.

  • Von Borgah
    Von Borgah 2 miesięcy temu

    Cant do the next mission unless you finish that one :D

  • The Edible Bomb
    The Edible Bomb 2 miesięcy temu

    Okay so the thing were they kill people in there dreams is only for exo machines built to fight a long forgotten war

  • hope and nightmare
    hope and nightmare 2 miesięcy temu


  • TheDaisukeMiyuki
    TheDaisukeMiyuki 2 miesięcy temu +1

    i'd kill to see some new Destiny stuff from this channel and OMG GHOSTPAT I NEED IT

  • Tiger31486
    Tiger31486 2 miesięcy temu

    4 Years later and you realize how wrong this video really is. I hope Mat makes a new video about destiny but this isn't a Destiny Lore channel.

  • Justin Taylor
    Justin Taylor 2 miesięcy temu

    Just watch My Name is Byf, he’ll set you straight.

  • John Eccles
    John Eccles 2 miesięcy temu

    We need more destiny theories

  • TheCatCody
    TheCatCody 2 miesięcy temu

    Talk about how the ghosts work because I don’t know how!

  • Thomas Moore
    Thomas Moore 2 miesięcy temu

    The end of D2 the traveler awakens sealing the fate of humanity

  • Phoenix Summoners
    Phoenix Summoners 2 miesięcy temu

    You should make a theory on d2

  • Xmanolo -10
    Xmanolo -10 2 miesięcy temu

    Mat you are not wrong we were suppose to be guardians of the surprise surprise the darkness but one of the vanilla destiny writters left with the old story being us against the traveler so they used the same story but made us the villains

  • Sir Matt
    Sir Matt 2 miesięcy temu

    I think the "Great Machine" was actually Tankis the scarred because he basically brought ruin to the houses of kells

    also the traveler is good

    • Sir Matt
      Sir Matt 2 miesięcy temu +1

      @Dragonborn Express Time to dismantle (almost)everything MatPat said. 1 why would a fallen dreg who speaks fallenese say the darkness in English to our player and if MatPat was right about the cognates thing how would we have had contact with them to know what darkness is 2 who invaded first us or the fallen 3 exos were not sent by the traveler, i think they were made by braytech (probably not) 4 i forgot this one and a few others i will be back after i remember them. To be honest I am probably wrong about a lot of this but just hear me out

    • Dragonborn Express
      Dragonborn Express 2 miesięcy temu +1

      @Sir Matt, thanks. Add on to that, you'd still have to dismantle the multiple other points he made, including the original concept for the story.

    • Sir Matt
      Sir Matt 2 miesięcy temu

      @Dragonborn Express oof also good point

    • Dragonborn Express
      Dragonborn Express 2 miesięcy temu +1

      Considering the Fallen literally call it the Great Machine, you're wrong.

  • Joseph Electric
    Joseph Electric 2 miesięcy temu

    More destiny theories! No more fnaf plz. Alot more pplz play destiny!

  • Brodie MacIntosh
    Brodie MacIntosh 2 miesięcy temu

    The Great Machine/The Traveler might be a machine... do another Theory but this time on Destiny 2

    DOMINUS OF THE RED LEGION 2 miesięcy temu +1

    I know this is super late but the Dark Heart you destroy in the Black garden is *not* the God of the Vex. It was taken from Oryx's Throne World by Quira, Blade Transform and a sect of Vex became dedicated to worshipping it like the Hive do in order to gain power. It's only purpose was to empower the Vex.

    • Thomas Moore
      Thomas Moore 2 miesięcy temu

      Vex worship it like a god and made it their god

  • Life is Tiny
    Life is Tiny 2 miesięcy temu

    *Wastes 70 legendary marks cuz u want boots and u get a artifact*
    *blue engram becomes an exotic*
    *doesnt mention rahool*

  • jazzyishere123
    jazzyishere123 2 miesięcy temu

    I know this is along time from the vid but in the closed beta u would try to kill the traveler

  • BluFire
    BluFire 2 miesięcy temu


  • Maxx Polidan
    Maxx Polidan 2 miesięcy temu +2

    Rip cyade 6 press f to pay respect

  • Anthony Eecken
    Anthony Eecken 2 miesięcy temu +1

    I want destiny 2...... I broke my TV....

  • OZ Raptor
    OZ Raptor 2 miesięcy temu

    Soo this video tells us not to trust the traveler and in destiny 2 we find out the speaker is a fakes sooo he was right I guess?

  • captan kreeper
    captan kreeper 2 miesięcy temu

    Black garden is place of light? More like vex mind juice lol

  • Johnathan Stokley
    Johnathan Stokley 2 miesięcy temu +1

    If anyone hasn't mentioned it at 5:14 the gardian is holding thorn a weapon of sorrow and a weapon of darkness that's probably why the dreg was saying the darkness.